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Minutes
of the P-2.5 Committee on Tantalum Capacitors
October 10, 2001
Loews Hotel, Philadelphia, PA
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Attendees:
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| Michael
Foerster |
EPCOS,
Inc. |
| Barry
Friedman |
Lucent
Technologies |
| Ferdinand
Hilbert |
EPCOS
AG |
| David
Holmes |
Vishay |
| Yan
Ma |
AEM |
| Len
Metzger |
Panasonic
Ind'l Co |
| Ed
Mikoski |
EIA/ECA |
| Mike
Mosier |
North
American Capacitor Co. |
| Brian
Piscitelli |
KOA
Speer Electronics |
| Les
Rice |
KOA
Speer Electronics |
| David
Richardson |
Vishay
Intertechnology, Inc. |
| Ralf
Schuhmann |
EPCOS
AG |
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Member
Organizations Present
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Present
at Previous Meeting?
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EPCOS, Inc |
Yes |
| KOA
Speer Electronics |
Yes |
| North
American Capacitor |
Yes |
| Panasonic
Industrial Co. |
Yes |
| Vishay |
Yes |
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Member
Organizations Absent
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Present
at Previous Meeting?
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| Agilent
Technologies |
No |
| AVX
Corporation |
Yes |
| IBM
Corporation |
Yes |
| Intel |
No |
| Kemet
Corp |
Yes |
| Motorola |
No |
| Visteon
Corporation |
No |
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Other
Organizations Present
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AEM |
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| EIA/ECA |
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| Lucent
Technologies |
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1.0
Committee Organization and Procedures
1.1 Membership and Attendance
The meeting was called-to-order at 10:05 AM by Dave Richardson, who
was substituting for absent Chairperson, Nancy Reynolds. Self-introductions
were made, attendance taken, and it was shown that a quorum was NOT
present. Since not enough voting members were in attendance to have
a Quorum, it was decided amongst the attendees that discussions would
proceed to prepare for progress at the next meeting. Dave Holmes was
appointed acting Secretary for the session.
1.2 Approval
of Agenda
The group agreed to work off of the existing proposed agenda.
1.3 Approval
of October, 2000 Meeting Minutes
Committee minutes from the Wednesday, 25 April 2001 meeting held at
the Hyatt Hotel in San Antonio, TX were distributed and discussed. Approval
was deferred due to lack of quorum.
1.4 Correspondence
No official correspondence received since the last meeting.
2.0 OLD BUSINESS
2.1 Reports
2.1.1 U-1 Committee Report
Discussed what the attendees could do to convince more Users to attend.
Much of the discussion centered around demonstrating how attending could
add value to their company.
Ron Gedney, from
NEMI, gave a NEMI Roadmap presentation at the U-1 User's Group meeting.
A copy of the presentation is attached to the U-1 meeting minutes.
2.1.2 DSCC Report
of Government Specifications and Standards
There was no DSCC Representative at the meeting and no report had been
sent to the Chair prior to the meeting.
2.2 Surface Mount
Tantalum Capacitors
2.2.1 Status: Standard (EIA-535BAAC), Low ESR (EIA-535BAAE), and
Fused Specifications.
Not Discussed
2.2.2 Discussion
of new Case Sizes, Ratings, or Products
It was suggested that the ratings charts be taken out of the specifications
(Standard (EIA-535BAAC), Low ESR (EIA-535BAAE), and Fused Specifications)
altogether (rather than splitting chart out into sub set (slash sheet))
due to inability to keep up with newly released ratings. Instead of
the ratings charts, include standard voltage ratings (4, 6.3, 10, 16,
20, 25, 35, 50) and decade ranges of capacitance (1, 4.7, 10, 15, 22,
33, 47, 68, 100, 150, 220, 330, 470, and 680).
User's commented
that different companies using different letters for the same case sizes
is confusing and needs to be standardized.
2.2.2.1 Non-molded
miniature sizes 2012 and 1608
Need to update 2012 termination dimensions.
Add low profile - 2 mm max height and 1.5mm max height.
2.2.3 Global
Standardization of Tantalum Specifications
Request was made for the EIA to provide a copy of the IEC spec to the
committee at the next meeting for comparison/standardization purposes.
ACTION ITEM¾Ed
Mikoski (EIA) agreed to bring a copy of the IEC spec to the next meeting.
(Dave Richardson will tell him which specs to bring).
2.3 High-temperature
(³150 °C) applications for molded chip tantalums
Recommended that a sub section be added to EIA-535BAAC to include high
temperature molded chip tantalums (150°C).
2.4 Hazardous
Material (Pb-free, etc
) considerations for Tantalum Chips
2.4.1 Report
on NEMI lead free solder technology
Ron Gedney, from NEMI, gave a NEMI Roadmap presentation at the U-1 User's
Group meeting. A copy of the presentation is attached to the U-1 meeting
minutes.
2.5 Review updates
to Tantalum - Polymer Draft Specification
Not discussed
2.6 Discussion
of Moisture Sensitivity Level (MSL) Tests for SMD Solid and Polymer
Tantalums
Will look at the IPC standard for moisture sensitivity. This issue will
be discussed in the working group at the April 2002 meeting. Group would
like to find a presenter on this issue as well.
2.7 Review of
EIA Catalog Specification List
Per discussion, Ed Mikoski agreed to have the documents cited in Para
2.7 of the 25APR2001 minutes pulled from the catalog, since they are
old and no longer determined as useful to the industry.
2.8 Review and
update EIA list of Active working Projects
Per discussion, Ed Mikoski agreed to have the Project number PN-4129
"Fused Molded Tantalum Chip" withdrawn. This was voted on
and approved by the committee in the 25APR2001 minutes Paragraph 2.8.
Group also recommended that a new PN be issued to revise application
guide to reflect polymer, high temperature chips, and niobium.
2.9 Update on
Niobium capacitors
Producers agreed that they would be ready to discuss a Niobium Spec
at the next meeting in April 2002.
3.0 NEW BUSINESS
3.1 Any new business
Meeting attendees discussed need for EMS/CM involvement due to the direction
of the industry's business model. Also need to let people that have
not come to several meetings in a row, know that they will be removed
from voting member list.
ACTION ITEM-Ed Mikoski,
EIA, will update voting member and attendee list on the EIA's system.
4.0 Next Meeting
The next meeting will be at the 4th ECA Engineering Summit Week of 14
April 2002 in Albuquerque, NM at the Sheraton Old Town Hotel.
5.0 Adjournment
The informal meeting was informally adjourned at 11:50 am EST.
This meeting was
conducted in accordance with the EIA legal guidelines and the manual
of organization and procedures.
Michael Mosier, Chairperson
Signature on file
Edward F. Mikoski,
Jr., Acting Secretary
Signatures on file
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